Consider this: you are the leader of the United States, and the titular head of the U.S. Government, yet you have no idea what anyone under you is doing. Your Administration has been nothing but a long series of scandals, with the last one being removed from the headlines only because a new scandal has broken, yet you claim to have absolutely no knowledge of any of them. However, you do claim credit for anything you believe will cast you in a good light. Now, if you are not incompetent, and you are not lying, then how could this be possible unless someone has taken over the government and is running it behind your back? This is what we face with President Obama, and even the Liberal media has finally admitted it:
MSNBC’s Blistering Montage of the President Denying Knowledge of Recent Scandals
Assuming the President is competent and he is not lying, this is still impeachable because it means he has allowed the Government to be taken over by private factions. If he is lying, he can be impeached for that. And if he is in charge and he is not lying, then he is criminally incompetent and should be impeached for that. All of these meet the Constitutional requirement for removing a sitting President, which brings us to the elephant in the room: the Republican controlled House refuses to file articles of impeachment because they are too worried about what it might do to their political power. So, instead of doing their duty, they join the President in allowing the nation to burn to the ground in the vain hope that they will somehow get to be the king of the ash pile.
This is yet another sign that the two Parties are in this together, and that – as long as we believe our solutions lie with either Party – this nation is doomed. The answer is not with the Parties. It isn’t even with any person. The answer lies with the founders. They did not do anything until they first sought the Lord’s guidance, and then prayed and even fasted on it before acting. And look what the result was: the greatest nation that has ever existed. Yet, somehow, we miss the connection between when we kicked God out of our public lives and when this nation started to slide over the edge of the abyss. I’ll give you a hint: they can both be traced to the same period in our history. Now, I don’t know about you, but I stopped believing in coincidences a long time ago…
The Oil for Your Lamp 
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The answer lies with the founders. They did not do anything until they first sought the Lord’s guidance, and then prayed and even fasted on it before acting. And look what the result was: the greatest nation that has ever existed…..I beg to differ…Many Religious Right activists have attempted to rewrite history by asserting that the United States government derived from Christian foundations, that our Founding Fathers originally aimed for a Christian nation. This idea simply does not hold to the historical evidence.
Of course many Americans did practice Christianity, but so also did many believe in deistic philosophy. Indeed, most of our influential Founding Fathers, although they respected the rights of other religionists, held to deism and Freemasonry tenets rather than to Christianity.
The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being. (For those who think the date of the Constitution contradicts the last sentence, see note 1 at the end.) The U.S. government derives from people (not God), as it clearly states in the preamble: “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union….” The omission of God in the Constitution did not come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.Although the Constitution does not include the phrase “Separation of Church & State,” neither does it say “Freedom of religion.” However, the Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment. As to our freedoms, the 1st Amendment provides exclusionary wording:
Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his January 1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association calling it a “wall of separation between church and State.” Madison had also written that “Strongly guarded. . . is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States.” There existed little controversy about this interpretation from our Founding Fathers.
If religionists better understood the concept of separation of Church & State, they would realize that the wall of separation actually protects their religion. Our secular government allows the free expression of religion and non-religion. Today, religions flourish in America; we have more churches than Seven-Elevens.
Although many secular and atheist groups today support and fight for the wall of separation, this does not mean that they wish to lawfully eliminate religion from society. On the contrary, you will find no secular or atheist group attempting to ban Christianity, or any other religion from American society. Keeping religion separate allows atheists and religionists alike, to practice their belief systems, regardless how ridiculous they may seem, without government intervention.
What Joe and Texas have covered very well addresses your mis-conception and perhaps accidentally mis-Represented intentions of the Founders when they wrote the Constitution.
The Constitution was written as the Law of Land and specifically so in relation to the Declaration of Independence….. because it had “….become necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which (had) connected them with (the Tyrrannical UK). “. The new political bands encapsulated within the Constitution appealed directly to “The Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them “
Artimus,
Actually, history DOES support my assertion — but then, I did NOT claim the founders tried to set up a Christian theocracy. This is an oft repeated straw man argument, and it is created because the case against the history of our founding cannot possibly hope to be won without it.
As for the next oft repeated mistake, the claim that many of our most influential founders were Deists is demonstrably false. I suppose the mistake rests in not knowing the definition of a Deist and not knowing what those founders said. But the two who are most often accused of Deism — Jefferson and Franklin — both held that God actively governs in the affairs of man (their words, not mine) which — by definition — precludes them from Deism.
Next, the Constitution does not establish a secular government. It establishes a government that will reflect the spirit of the people. However, you must not have read it if you believe it does not appeal to Christ. You might want to go read how the founders chose to date the document again. I know you discount the wording, but the founders could have dated it in another manner, and these were men who did not choose their words lightly. By discounting the possibility they did this intentionally, YOU are attempting to re-write history — especially when we look at the bulk of their writings. Then it is more likely they definitely meant to include the acknowledgment of God.
Next, the founders did not write religious matters into the Constitution as the Constitution was meant to govern a federation. As such, the States were once considered sovereign, and that included the jurisdiction of religion. At the time of the founding, there were State religions, yet the Constitution did not prohibit them. Had the founders wanted a secular nation as you claim, they would have addressed that. they did not, and this is a strong case against your argument — as are the words of Benjamin Rush, who said he would sooner see this nation governed by Muhamites than infidels (Atheists), and Robert Winthrop, Speaker of the House, who said that — in America — it is not religion that must have the support of the government, but the government that must have the support of religion. This is also an understanding held by the two most influential founders of the Progressive movement — Roosevelt and Wilson.
However, it is interesting that you stress the NO in the 1st Amendment. You are missing the point. If Congress can make no law, then it cannot prohibit — and neither can the federal courts, as they can only justly rule on laws. No law, no court authority — PERIOD! Which means you actually argued AGAINST yourself. But this is good because, if one bothers to read the records of the debate over the 1st Amendment, one finds this is EXACTLY what the founders wanted: government out of what the founders called freedom of conscience. But this does NOT exclude State authority over religion, so — again — you have not won your case.
Now, Jefferson’s letter actually affirms MY assertion — NOT yours. It says the Church had nothing to worry about because Congress couldn’t make a law addressing them, therefore, the President and Court had no authority to affect them, either. THIS IS NOT WHAT THE ANTI-RELIGION CROWED HAS TURNED THIS INTO! Those who argue that Jefferson’s letter kicks religion out of government seem to be ignorant of the fact that the same man established worship services in the capital building and attended faithfully every Sunday. That alone negates everything you just said regarding his letter as actions speak louder than words — especially words that have been turned on their head by an agenda that rests on the re-writing of history.
Finally, if those who seek to attack religion better understood the central role the founders said it played to the preservation of a free and self-governing society, they might understand that religion is not a threat to them, but the only sure means of safeguarding their rights and liberty.
I am aware you will disagree, but I can lay hands on documents with the founders’ own words, from their own quills and by their own hand that fully support my case — you cannot do the same. Others will just have to decide which of the two of us is resting on the Truth.
America’s founding fathers studied, understood, and considered; philosophy, religion, and government. More than any written or published “moderns” today. Our founders read, wrote and discussed in multiple languages. Thomas Jefferson spoke 5, 6 or 7 languages and read & wrote 7, 8 or 9 languages.
When discussing what kind of government to CREATE among mankind, our founders purposely and carefully chose their words and language.
The founders understood to maximize individual freedom, and liberty, the government must be prohibited from instituting, favoring, or prohibiting a particular religion. Thereby ensuring individual freedom and liberty in allowing each person to search and explore his/her own journey with God.
When one reads the founders letters and speeches, it becomes clear, the founders were not deists. The claim the founders were deists was and is a progressive tactic to remove God from the public square/America. When one removes God from the public conscience and understanding, then it is an easy step to enslave “the people” with the argument that mankind’s rights (and thereby very life) come from “government”. Which is diametrically opposite to America’s Declaration of Independence. A progressive is an American style communist as created by Woodrow Wilson et al; and seeks to institute tyranny through marxism slowly, progressively. The progressives are creating a new monarchy/oligarchy in the form of Marxism, a regressive step in the evolution of governance of man and liberty for mankind. A re-institution of the all powerful, all knowing monarchy/oligarchy, of nobles and kings, in the Marxist ideal of “experts”, “elites”, and “dictators”.
Anyone who claims Americas founders were deists are knowingly lying or have been tricked and purposely mislead away from America’s foundations and underpinnings.
“The people” can choose not to follow the words of lying or ignorant people who are purposely or ignorantly enslaving “the people” with enumerable laws, regulations, taxes, and fees.